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Is this Correct 14 years 2 months ago #4540

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Consider a baseband bus with a number of equally spaced stations with a data rate of 10Mbps and a bus lenght of 1km.
1) What is the average time to send a frame of 1000 bits to another station, measured from the beginning of transmission to the end of reception? Assume a propagation speed of 200 m/us

2) If the two stations begin to transmit at exactly the same time, their packets will interfere with each other. If each transmitting station monitors the bus during transmission, how long before it notices an interference, in seconds? In bit times?

Is this correct >
Q1> Ave distance = (0.5km + 0.25km)/2=0.375km
Transmission time = 1000 bits/10^7bps
Propagation time = 375m/(200x10^6m/sec)
T = Tx + Pt = 202usec
therefore = 0.0001+0.000001875=0.000101875=102usec

Q2> don't understand it

Re: Is this Correct 14 years 2 months ago #4542

The situation....

Consider a baseband bus with a number of equally spaced stations with a data rate of 10Mbps and a bus lenght of 1km.

The first part of your query...

1) What is the average time to send a frame of 1000 bits to another station, measured from the beginning of transmission to the end of reception? Assume a propagation speed of 200 m/us

The answer...

Since time (T) = distance/speed, therefore we need to find the mean distance between stations.

A station in the middle of the bus is on an average at a distance of 0.25km to a station either side of it. A station at the end is on an average at a distance of 0.5km to any station on the bus. Therefore the average distance between stations can be estimated to be 0.375km. i.e. (0.5 +0.25)/2,

T = (10^3 / 10^7) + (375m/200x10^6m/sec) = 102 microseconds (0.000102 s)
Therefore, your calculation is absolutely correct!!


Now, the second part of you query...

2) If the two stations begin to transmit at exactly the same time, their packets will interfere with each other. If each transmitting station monitors the bus during transmission, how long before it notices an interference, in seconds? In bit times?

The answer...in seconds...

T = 2*1000/200x10^6 = 0.00001s or 10 microseconds

The answer...in bit time...

The propagation delay is normally measured in a unit called a 'bit time'. 1 bit time is defined as the duration of one data bit on the network, in this case 1/10,000,000 second.

To obtain the value of T in bit times,

T (bit times) = 10^7 * 0.00001 = 100 bit times

The Ethernet standards specify that the shortest transmission unit allowed on an Ethernet network is 512 bits, therefore we always design the network such that the absolute worst case delay is less than 512 bit times.

Re: Is this Correct 14 years 2 months ago #4546

Read this nice article if you still have any doubts left regarding Propagation Delay!

www.firewall.cx/ethernet-prop-delay.php

Thanks 14 years 2 months ago #4548

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Re: Is this Correct 14 years 2 months ago #4550

sure ..no probs!

take care,
Varun
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